I know some of you are chomping at the bit for the updated information. The leaderboard takes a few days to go through our IS department. HOWEVER, all the stats are available to you on this site -- in the bulletin board.

You can find the current standings for the East Division points under the Henderson Harbor tournament.

You can find the current Challenge Points under the Menominee MI tournament heading. Titled Challenge POints I think.

You can find the final results of the Central Division under the Menominee, MI tournament.

Is there anything else that you need?

Remember, challenge points are calculated by finishing position (or rank) divided by # of teams in the tournament times 100.

10th place out of 202 teams = 4.95 challenge points

59th out of 202 teams = 29.20 challenge points.

You do that step for all FOUR tournaments (3 in one division plus the BEST from the "other" division") for your total Challenge Points.

Remember, we jump DOWN or OVER teams in the Challenge that will qualify for the Championship through the East or Central. Right now; we're jumping all the way to teams in 95th place

Kristine
We are more then a little confussed?
There are not even 95 teams in the challenge according to the leader board.
So where are you jumping down to 95th place?
Schmitty

Sorry for the confusion. What I meant -- is that some of the teams that are looking like they will make it to the Championship through the MWC Challenge -- finished 90-something place in the MWC Central. Was trying to point out how VALUABLE picking up a challenge tournament can be. There's still time to get into Dunkirk -- although there is a $40 late fee. But some of you teams should really be seriously considering a 4th tournament.

Kristine,

I assume that if a team is signed up for challenge, and dunkirk is their challenge event, and they decide to not show up to Dunkirk, that they are still actually fishing the challenge even though they will 0 for the Dunkirk since they are not able to get their money back for the tournament?

I know of a couple teams possibly not fishing dunkirk and assumed they would be kept on the challenge list even if they did not show up since they are still going to be entered into and paying for the tourney. Just wondering if that was an accurate assumption as I watch point race play out myself.

Thank you

Nope. You have to "Launch" both days for you to be counted for any kind of points. If someone no-shows (and assuming that was their only East division tournament) they would be removed from the count for the MWC East and removed from the count for MWC Challenge. This could affect the #s of teams advancing -- as we will take 10% from the division and 20% from Challenge.

Kristine,
On the 10% calculations...for the east, we had 104 teams at Detroit, you add to that the # of new teams from Henderson and Dunkirk for your total to figure the 10%, is that correct? Thanks...Fred

I don't think it is fair that when people signed up for dunkirk for a challenge tournament in March with hopes of 100 plus boats and it has half of that, that they should be forced into paying or going. I could see if there where more boats, but who can predict what tournament to sign up for in March. What does everyone else think of this? I am all for the east division but if there is only 40-50 boats we should not be forced to go or pay. That is my opion.

Dennis,

I do think it is fair that you either have to show up and fish or lose your money. It is clear in the entry form that there will be no refunds.

What I do not think is right is that is a team decided to not fish well knowing there is no way to get their entry fee back that they are removed from the east and/or challenge lists. It's one less boat that needs to be "dealt" with at the tourney, the MWC gets to keep the entire entry fee, but they are removed from point standings and roster. It effects the challenge and the east from the point perspective, but it also effects the east's team of the year fund. People paid to fish the tournament, so what if they didn't actually show up, I feel it should be counted simply as them having a two day 0 in the tourney. They are still paying for a spot in the tourney, that spot should still "exist" in all manners.

My thoughts anyway,
Chad

Chad,

I agree, it's ridiculous for the MWC to pocket the money. That team should be a 0 or No-show for the tournament with no points towards any standings. That money belongs with the rest of the entry fees for the tournament.

Alan Baumgardner
NPAA #549

Knowing going into this year that this event would not fill, WHY did you sign up in March?? Add the challange event later based on how you're year is going!

If infact you won't get points for not showing they better remove that entry as not give the East more team!

Guys & gals....

MWC does not pocket the money. It still stays in the purse and is included in the payout. You asked me about points -- and it clearly states in the rules that you must launch both days to get points. Failure to get points is different than keeping the team and their money in the payout for the tournament.

To qualify for the Challenge you must COMPLETE a division and fish a 4th tournament. If you pay for it but don't fish it -- that doesn't count. We wouldn't give someone a ZERO -- that would be less than the winners.

I'm all for open dialogue -- and if you think there's a better way of looking at this take it to your AAP members and have them bring it up at a meeting. For now the rules are pretty clear. You don't get points unless you launch. Otherwise, you are removed from the division and/or removed from the Challenge group.